Rocky Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 So I want to build a new PC this weekend. I was thinking i7 4770 with a Asus Z87 Pro MB, but maybe I don;t need to spend £150 on a MB? Any advice? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PANiC Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) Z97 just out, can you wait at all? , i7 devil's canyon imminent asus maximus vii ranger not a bad choice: http://www.asus.com/ie/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_VII_RANGER/ £120 @ scan http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-maximus-vii-ranger-intel-z97-s-1150-ddr3-sata-iii-6gb-s-sata-raid-pcie-30-%28x16%29-d-sub-%28vga%29-dvi?utm_source=google+shopping&utm_medium=cpc&gclid=CK72xKmLzb4CFZShtAodAVcADA asus maximus vii hero for few dollar more http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_VII_HERO/ £165 http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-maximus-vii-hero-intel-z97-s-1150-ddr3-sata-iii-6gb-s-sata-raid-pcie-30-%28x16%29-d-sub-%28vga%29-dvi-d of course you would have to make use of z97 features new hard drive for your shiny M.2 port: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-054-IN&groupid=1657&catid=2101&subcat=2364 just googled and found a nice little group test, bare in mind that the ranger is £18 cheaper than they had it at also http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/motherboards/2014/05/11/z97-motherboard-group-tests/3 what u upgrading from btw? Edited May 27, 2014 by PANiC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted May 28, 2014 Author Share Posted May 28, 2014 Thanks Panic, checking those links out now. One thing that befuddles me is the range of i7 processors that are onlt like £5 apart. I can't understand why there would be so many, when they are only £5-£10 apart in price and only a few marks different in bench tests, why have so many? I'm upgrading because my Q6600 is perhaps getting a bit long in the tooth for gaming and I plan on doing a lot of video processing soon, so this upgrade will cut down on processing time hugely. I do want to play watchdogs and the new Grid game at max settings though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted May 28, 2014 Author Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) What is an M2 port, is that a port to plug in an internal SSD? That sounds neat. Thats a great MB roundup thanks a lot! Loving this!! Edited May 28, 2014 by Rocky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PANiC Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Look out for the K in the cpu name, means its unlocked so you can overclock, these are more expensive tho. I was a bit confused myself at the naming, there are a few different core names, devils canyon being the 5th generation iirc. Cant remember exactly which one I got without looking it up ha. M2 is kinda like msata, but I think it has more uses because it combines pci express and a sata3 port so you can plug in differnt small devices... really handy in an ultrabook for example. An m2 sata sdd will perform at sata 3 speed, pretty damn fast as u expect, but u can also buy m2 pci express ssd for 10Gbit compaired to s3 6Gbit woop. If u havent seen an msata or m2 ssd before they look a bit bare bones (and tiny) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted May 28, 2014 Author Share Posted May 28, 2014 i7 devil's canyon imminent Hmm, that's definitely going to have an affect on current prices, sounds like it is delayed though. Dang it, I'll need to curb my enthusiasm for a wee while.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PANiC Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) well you know you cannot win with tech, always something better making the thing you just bought cheaper and not quite as good hard for me to accept, that's why it took so long for me to upgrade, still i missed the Z97, devil's canyon, i was almost considering waiting for ddr4 - end of year maybe for desktops?? bit the bullet but still holding out for the next gen gfx card. have to say that gaming is so much better despite not getting a new card yet. hope the next gen cards are something special, you know with 4k monitors already below £500 :D and tell me you wouldn't want this either even if it's not 4k:http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-106-LG&groupid=17&catid=1120 http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=26347640&postcount=822 Edited May 28, 2014 by PANiC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrester~SPARTA~ Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 I'd use a screwdriver to put it together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GySgt~SPARTA~ Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 dont forget to add the popcorn butter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlon64~SPARTA~ Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 (edited) Its going to use to many watts.LOL, Depending on the modle # from 2.0 ghz to 3.5ghz 4 core===slow But I do like that 4k monitor, I think for $800 is a bit much. Edited June 1, 2014 by Athlon64~SPARTA~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) Update on Devil's Canyon. If only I understood it. I understand this one though Buying advice is simple enough: if you were in the market for a Core i7-4770K processor, forget it, buy this one instead - it's guaranteed to be faster. Core i7-4790K will grab the headlines today, clearly, but we're actually more interested in the Pentium Anniversary Edition, which is a budget CPU that, for most, is a much more savvy financial bet then the two new Core chips. Available on SCAN for £20 more than the outgoing chip. I think I'll wait and see it there is a price drop on the 4770, if it goes down to £220 ish, I'll go for that rather than the new one. Edited June 3, 2014 by Rocky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrester~SPARTA~ Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 yer right I never used the top components but just one tray lower, keep in mind that you want tolook at the socket. Rather take a lower processor on a new socket so upgrades stay avaliable than fall for a cheap bargain with a better processor that cant be upgraded later. Read into the developments at Intel and you'll know what to buy. Good advice is avaliable at hardware.info (A dutch site also avaliable in English) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halli~SPARTA~ Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I reckon you really don't need to over think this as you kept the Q6600 for a long time and it worked as needed just grab the 4770k as it will work fine for the next 5 years and can push 32 gb of ram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 Yeh you are right Halli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krambo Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) I got the 2600k and i'm still smashing through anything i throw at it. That should be plenty of power! not bad comparison though..... http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?page=5&itemid=1123 plenty of benchmarks Edited June 6, 2014 by Krambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted June 7, 2014 Author Share Posted June 7, 2014 (edited) Wow, great link Krambo, BUT I think that card processor has gone into "you cant get it so the price has risen due to scarcity" territory!! I only found it on one store and its only £30 cheaper than the 4770! I thought there would be a much bigger price difference from 2600 to 4770, I would definitely have gone for that based off the gaming benchmarks you posted. For the sake of another 30 quid now I am not sure! Edited June 9, 2014 by Rocky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cylawyer~SPARTA~ Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 WHAT? The difference between a 2600 and a 4770 is a huge difference in performance. You get nearly 4 to 6 times the performance from the 4770 compared to the 2600 Pro in considering Texture and Pixel fill rates and twice the GBs being processed. I'd say that was worth $60! Sorry, image is small and difficult to read and distorts as you magnify it. I don't know how to fix it, so here is a link to the site I use to compare stuff. http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=88&pgno=4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 Did you mean to link to the AMD GPU chart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PANiC Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 think 'cause you said card in the previous post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donziboy2 Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Yep, seems like you guys are getting CPU's and GPU's mixed up here;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cylawyer~SPARTA~ Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Not sure what you're talking about Donzi. Rocky said something about not seeing why he should spend an additional 30 British pounds on an AMD/ATI (they are the same company now) 4770 GPU (video card) instead of getting the 2600 video card. I believe my point was on the money, linked the proper chart and was referencing the proper item he was discussing, i.e. video cards containing GPUs made by AMD/ATI. Did I miss something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchman~SPARTA~ Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Not sure what you're talking about Donzi. Rocky said something about not seeing why he should spend an additional 30 British pounds on an AMD/ATI (they are the same company now) 4770 GPU (video card) instead of getting the 2600 video card. I believe my point was on the money, linked the proper chart and was referencing the proper item he was discussing, i.e. video cards containing GPUs made by AMD/ATI. Did I miss something? Yes, the discussion is on CPU's. An i7 4770k vs. an i5 2600k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krambo Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I was just comparing CPU's yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 Not sure what you're talking about Donzi. Rocky said something about not seeing why he should spend an additional 30 British pounds on an AMD/ATI (they are the same company now) 4770 GPU (video card) instead of getting the 2600 video card. I believe my point was on the money, linked the proper chart and was referencing the proper item he was discussing, i.e. video cards containing GPUs made by AMD/ATI. Did I miss something? LOL, yeh sorry I dropped the "i7" prefix which confused things, but if you read from the start, you can see the topic is CPUs not GPUs, I never actually mention AMD/ATI. I'm still debating on what to do anyway, really keen to get a better system so that I can up the settings on watchdog though, really getting into that game, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cylawyer~SPARTA~ Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 doh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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