Atlantis - Last Take-off

[Batwing~SPARTA~]

A piece of History that goes....

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/08/space-shuttle-atlantis-launch-video_n_893314.html

[MedicSN6]

I watched it live today. A sad day in history.

[Elvis~SPARTA~]

Thank God that deathtrap has been recalled, 14 astronauts too late.

 

Best technology the 70s had to offer, built on an design that's flawed.

 

Too bad it's not being replaced with the Constellation program.

 

[EL_n00biachi]

^^That looks like the Buran.....it was far more advanced than the American spaceshuttle.

[Rooster90]

Still waiting on my space elevator....

 

And hovercraft for that matter. HUP-TOO NASA!

[Athlon64~SPARTA~]

And traffic was snarrled for hours afterwards. Still clustered after i got off work, need to have them dureing the weekends. But last launch of it. Then the space plane will begin.

 

That is a soviet copy of it.

Edited July 9, 2011 by Athlon64~SPARTA~

[EL_n00biachi]

Actually it is believed by alot of people that the American shuttle was a copy,and a really bad one.......the Soviet one fe could lift alot more weight up to 4 times more,was fully automatic,digital\computer operated and had a crew ejection system; it was far ahead of its time....sadly it was supported by a failing economy and the Soviets opted for a spacestation and "simple" rockets to traffic between earth and Mir,Soyuz manned,Progress unmanned supply\waste-disposal.

[Elvis~SPARTA~]

The American ones were built first, way first, even according to Energia http://www.k26.com/b...omparison.html. The Russian design had some advantages, shared the same drawbacks as the American one -- it was a shuttle, strapped to the side of something else that dropped crap on it at supersonic speed.

 

. See damage to Buran here:

 

 

TPS = thermal protective shielding.

 

One of the 5 soviet shuttles flew, only once, two orbits, unmanned. Of course, the unmanned flying capability wasn't added to the us shuttle until just a few years ago, so a first for the soviets.

 

The big disadvantage the russian shuttle (now in the hands of the Khazeks) had was it was russian. The good news -- no computers to burn out. The bad news, no computers:

 

[custard~SPARTA~]

I thought the Russians allways built more powerful rockets although there only advantage it's pretty important when trying to launch stuff into space. In fact haven't NASA purchased a lot of Russian rockets?

[Athlon64~SPARTA~]

Thats right FIRST! There comrad, Have you ever known the soviets to invent anything? NO. COPY COPY COPY Like the riseing sun folks. Our first shuttle had ejection seats. They later deleted them becouse you can't eject in space. Not a really good design in any form, A flying bomb as we found out, But we needed something to put up orbiting merv platforms that orbit the earth evey 30 min and can launch 20 megaton warheads on anybody we desire at any time we want.=BOOM! And the latest spy satalights as well.

 

How does it feel that a nukeular warhead is above your head every 30 minutes. Scary isnent it?

You better research your history there some more son. The soviet didnot have it first.

Edited July 10, 2011 by Athlon64~SPARTA~

[Zeno~SPARTA~]

Have you ever known the soviets to invent anything?

 

First intercontinental ballistic missile

First Satellite

First animal in space

First man in space

First woman in space

First Space Walk

First lunar impact

First lunar soft landing

First Space Station

[custard~SPARTA~]

Thats right FIRST! There comrad, Have you ever known the soviets to invent anything? NO. COPY COPY COPY Like the riseing sun folks. Our first shuttle had ejection seats. They later deleted them becouse you can't eject in space. Not a really good design in any form, A flying bomb as we found out, But we needed something to put up orbiting merv platforms that orbit the earth evey 30 min and can launch 20 megaton warheads on anybody we desire at any time we want.=BOOM! And the latest spy satalights as well.

 

How does it feel that a nukeular warhead is above your head every 30 minutes. Scary isnent it?

You better research your history there some more son. The soviet didnot have it first.

 

Your kind of right the Russians used German scientists to start there rocket program but didn't the US do exactly the same?

[Zeno~SPARTA~]

David Jones (Patrick McGoohan) Ice Station Zebra

 

The Russians put our camera made by *our* German scientists and your film made by *your* German scientists into their satellite made by *their* German scientists.

[Athlon64~SPARTA~]

The germans devoleped the first icbm, the v2rocket, buy Verner Vonbraun. Goddard invented the first rocket motor in the 1930s Later Verner devolped the Satern 5 that took us to the moon. They did do the first satelight,sputnick.

but alot of those were not inventions, they were the first time it was done.

 

There rockets are big becouse you need alot of room for vacuum tube electronics.

But sence then not a real lot did they invent. In the late 40s We had to emergency land some b-29s somewhere over there and they let the crews go but kept the planes to copy. Next thing you know soviet Tu-4 the bull B-29 copys. They dident have any big bombers at that time. The did alot first. But fell behind and stayed there.

Edited July 10, 2011 by Athlon64~SPARTA~

[Zeno~SPARTA~]

The operational range of a V2 was 200 miles, it was not an InterContinental Ballistic Missile

[Athlon64~SPARTA~]

Well this says different

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICBM

 

World War II

 

The development of the world's first practical design for an ICBM, A9/10, intended for use in bombing New York and other American cities, was undertaken in Nazi Germany by the team of Wernher von Braun under Projekt Amerika. The ICBM A9/A10 rocket initially was intended to be guided by radio, but was changed to be a piloted craft after the failure of Operation Elster. The second stage of the A9/A10 rocket was tested a few times in January and February 1945. The progenitor of the A9/A10 was the German V-2 rocket, also designed by von Braun and widely used at the end of World War II to bomb British and Belgian cities. All of these rockets used liquid propellants. Following the war, von Braun and other leading German scientists were secretly forced to the United States to work directly for the U.S. Army through Operation Paperclip, developing the IRBMs, ICBMs, and launchers.

Edited July 10, 2011 by Athlon64~SPARTA~

[Rooster90]

First sentence:

 

"An intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) is a ballistic missile with a long range (greater than 5,500 km or 3,500 miles)"

 

Thats a bit more than 200. The V2 rocket was not itself an ICBM, but a predecessor to them. The concept (or practical design as your Wiki states) was there, but they didn't quite have the range.

[Athlon64~SPARTA~]

It also says the A9/A10 then the V-2 later. Becouse Hitler wanted to bring the war to the U.S. and wake the sleeping giant. The New York rocket.

Edited July 10, 2011 by Athlon64~SPARTA~