EL_n00biachi Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Dont forget we have Tech Support on Spartan TS3 No we dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krambo Posted April 9, 2011 Author Share Posted April 9, 2011 (edited) ok list so far, comments welcome.... Mobo - £143.50 http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gigabyte-ga-x58a-ud3r-rev-2-intel-x58-s1366-sli-xfire-pci-e-2-ddr3-2200-usb3-and-sata-6gb-s RAM - £74.54 http://www.scan.co.uk/products/6gb-%283x2gb%29-corsair-vengeance-ddr3-pc3-12800-%281600%29-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-8-8-8-24-xmp-150v CPU - £227 http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i7-960-bloomfield-45nm-320-ghz-qpi-48-8mb-cache-24x-ratio-retail-plus-free-shogun-2 Cooling - £50.99 Total £496.03 Just inside the budget, not counting delivery http://www.scan.co.uk/products/corsair-h50-1-hydro-high-performance-cpu-watercoolers775-1366-1156-1155-amd-754-939-940-am2-am2plus- Edited April 9, 2011 by Krambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donziboy2 Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 (edited) 1366........... Not sure why but its your money. OK Rviper, looks like you won this one. Edited April 9, 2011 by Donziboy2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL_n00biachi Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Well he does get a free copy of Shogun 2....how can you compete with that with your config?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krambo Posted April 9, 2011 Author Share Posted April 9, 2011 1366........... OK Rviper, looks like you won this one. said i was open to comments.... constructive ones anyway ;) please elaborate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donziboy2 Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 (edited) Viper has been waving the 1366 flag and I have been waving the 1155 flag £147.20 Inc VAT for Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD4 Intel P67 Express Socket 1155 Motherboard £160.98 inc VAT for the 2500k £130.99 Inc VAT for Corsair Memory Vengeance 12gb cas9 1600 ram.... Edited was looking at wrong ram this was 4x4gb ram.... Kinda hard to find good ram when they only really carry Corsair........ £439.17 £50.99 Inc VAT for Corsair H50-1 Hydro Series CPU Cooler I wouldn't really want it but they dont really carry alot of options there...... £490.16 I found that site to be uninspiring. They only give you 1 page of results and cut a large number of items unless you search by names.... Im going to edit more, but i dont wana loose this so im posting it..... Overclockers.co.uk Prebuilt Overclock bundle 2500k/Gigabyte UD4/4gb corsair 1600ram £398.78 inc VAT Only drawback to that prebuilt is the 4gb ram. Or £79.19 inc VAT G.Skill RipJawsX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM) [F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM] £149.99 inc VAT Gigabyte P67A-UD4-B3 £161.99 inc VAT Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz OEM no HS/fan £391.17 That almost beats the oc bundle, but you can choose your own HS/fan and you got 4 more gigs of ram. Im not saying you have to go 1155 or 1366, im just showing the options and giving my argument the best I can. Also if your in no rush AMD is working on another Line of AM3+ chips. Bulldozer I believe. Should be late April they will start shipping if no delays. Incase your wondering why I think the 1366 is worse then the 1155 go Here. The Extreme Edition is 30mhz faster and it looses in most of those games. Edited April 10, 2011 by Donziboy2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krambo Posted April 9, 2011 Author Share Posted April 9, 2011 thanks man, good read, i have no way made a final decision, thats just a draft of what i was leaning towards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krambo Posted April 9, 2011 Author Share Posted April 9, 2011 ok based on the info provided this is what i would be looking at ... MOBO http://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-ga-p67a-ud4-b3-intel-p67-express-s-1155-pci-e-20-%28x16%29-ddr3-2133-sata-6gb-s RAM http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-%282x4gb%29-corsair-twin-pack-vengeance-ddr3-pc3-14900-%281866%29-cas-9-10-9-27-xmp-150v CPU http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i7-2600k-340-ghz-sandy-bridge1155-qd-core-gpu-850mhz-8mb-cache-95w-retail then the same cooler £535.74 bit over budget but looks sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donziboy2 Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 (edited) Looks good. Im not to impressed with the selection at scan.co.uk You can have any brand memory you want as long as its Corsair lol. I will point out that the cost to benefit ratio of the 2600k vs the 2500k is poor. The difference in gaming will be negligible, only if you are running multiple high load programs will you see any real benefits. But then again I am kinda bitchy about these things The coolest thing about the H20 is that it doesnt put a large strain on the CPU socket and motherboard, but remember to leak test before you run your system. A wet computer is no fun. But it looks good. Could you please post the rest of your parts. If im not at school or working when you get your parts in I will make sure im available for tech support:) Helpful reference for building your system. Its for an 1156 board but most of the procedures are the same. Edited April 10, 2011 by Donziboy2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krambo Posted April 10, 2011 Author Share Posted April 10, 2011 (edited) i just use scan as an idea as its the cheapest. I will get parts from different places if they are cheaper. Sure... Case - Antec 900 PSU - Antec 850w - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129282 GFX - nVdia 480 GTX Edited April 10, 2011 by Krambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krambo Posted April 10, 2011 Author Share Posted April 10, 2011 based on a fair amount of reading it looks as if the i5 2500k peforms just about as good as the i7 2600k yet doesnt support hyperthreading.. came across this list also earlier of programs that support hyperthreading, noticed couple of games i play on there also use it.. http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=290073&mpage=1 will i see that much of a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donziboy2 Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 I foundthis article dismorning on memory, looks like expensive ram is just a paper tiger. In Crysis the difference between 1600 and 1833 at cas 9 is 0.3%. But it does not take into account overclocking the cpu so the gain could be greater.... My Head Hurts Antec Nine Hundred It looks like there is a mount on the side window for a 120mm fan. If so I recommend you put a fan there to blow down onto the mobo/ram, and it will feed more cool air to your gpu also. Heat is our enemy, we must destroy it!!!!!! Case/Psu/Gpu looks good. You should be able to rock on for a good amount of time with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krambo Posted April 10, 2011 Author Share Posted April 10, 2011 Fan already mounted to the side window my friend but thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donziboy2 Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 (edited) The thing with HT is that you are limited to how much power you physicaly have on the die. With HT it allows you to run 8 smaller processes more efficiently then 8 processes on 4 cores. The only HT benches I have seen that are Sandy Bridge specific are from a frech site. Hardware.fr They only tested Crysis and Arma 2. Crysis saw a gain and Arma 2 choked. Granted they did some of there testing at 2.8 ghz. In order to compare them to other chips. The true question is do you want to gain performance in 1 game only to loose it in another? You could disable it for now and hope that in another year that most game devs are streamlining HT then re-enable it. But is the cost difference worth it to you? Edited April 10, 2011 by Donziboy2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batwing~SPARTA~ Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Krambo: That list of software using HT is very interesting, thx for that. However keep in mind the source is March 22 2010. I would consider way more programs today and tomorrow being optimized for HT. Donzy: Honestly, besides a purely economic factor, which i don t even know how much applies on this discussion anymore, the debate about "Is HT Useful or not" sounds quite dry to me. HT is better Period. It enhances performances on programs written correctly to use it. The up- performance may not be stellar but is there anyway. In other cases is purely stellar. However I really don t see the reason to say NO upfront to a possible better performance, if the option is within budget. All of these machines are going to perform very similarely. The difference is in your wallet. Get all of the "optional" you can either will use 'em or not. You never know if tomorrow will come out a new amazing game you love, perfectly implemented for HT and then you don't have it... because you saved 30 bucks.... Up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donziboy2 Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 (edited) More like £70 or $90 on newegg. The % increase does not justify the 40% premium to me. To me that's the difference between a HDD and an SSD. SSD and page files are made for each other You are using Windows 7 right? OCZ Vertex 60GB 2.5" SATA-II Solid State Hard Drive (OCZSSD2-1VTX60G) [OCZSSD2-1VTX60G] Out of stock atm but thats not bad. OS/Page File drive Edited April 10, 2011 by Donziboy2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krambo Posted April 11, 2011 Author Share Posted April 11, 2011 Yes Windows 7. Really cnt decide what 2 do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donziboy2 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Atleast your asking questions and planing before you buy. A member of another gaming group i hang with asked us about his build idea then after a day he went and ordered without checking forums..... So now he is having to RMA cpu/PSU/HDD cause he didnt look at post before ordering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krambo Posted April 11, 2011 Author Share Posted April 11, 2011 Now im thinking shall i hold off for Z68 chipset release in May...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batwing~SPARTA~ Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 About the Z68 Chipset, please read carefully: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Intel-Z68-Chipset-Previewed-First-Motherboards-Expected-in-Early-May-188838.shtml Once again, the improvement focused on the new Chipset are not aimed to gamers but to media enthusiats. The interesting feature is the SSD caching memory. On how much that feature really is going to impact performances is yet to be seen, but sounds interesting. While I do agree with the article writer, it's a shame that native features were not included with the previous chipset, all of this make sense to me only if is not impacting price. Check your budget and if this new Z68 does not impact on it, go for it 100%, but if it does it... Just focus on what you need to do with your machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krambo Posted April 11, 2011 Author Share Posted April 11, 2011 Bout ready to give up and stick with the C2D! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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