40 Reasons For Gun Control

[MedicSN6]

40 Reasons For Gun Control

 

1. Banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, & Chicago cops need guns.

 

2. Washington DC's low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Indianapolis' high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control.

 

3. Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are "just statistics."

 

4. The Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban, both of which went into effect in 1994 are responsible for the decrease in violent crime rates, which have been declining since 1991.

 

5. We must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree at any time and anyone who would own a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid.

 

6. The more helpless you are the safer you are from criminals.

 

7. An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you.

 

8. A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.

 

9. When confronted by violent criminals, you should "put up no defense -- give them what they want, or run" (Handgun Control Inc. Chairman Pete Shields, Guns Don't Die - People Do, 1981, p.125).

 

10. The New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns; just like Guns & Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery.

 

11. One should consult an automotive engineer for safer seatbelts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a surgeon for internal medicine, a computer programmer for hard drive problems, and Sarah Brady for firearms expertise.

 

12. The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created 130 years later, in 1917.

 

13. The National Guard, federally funded, with bases on federal land, using federally-owned weapons, vehicles, buildings and uniforms, punishing trespassers under federal law, is a "state" militia.

 

14. These phrases: "right of the people peaceably to assemble," "right of the people to be secure in their homes," "enumerations herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people," and "The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively, and to the people" all refer to individuals, but "the right of the people to keep and bear arm" refers to the state.

 

15. "The Constitution is strong and will never change." But we should ban and seize all guns thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendments to that Constitution.

 

16. Rifles and handguns aren't necessary to national defense! Of course, the army has hundreds of thousands of them.

 

17. Private citizens shouldn't have handguns, because they aren't "military weapons", but private citizens shouldn't have "assault rifles", because they are military weapons.

 

18. In spite of waiting periods, background checks, finger printing, government forms, etc., guns today are too readily available, which is responsible for recent school shootings. In the 1940's, 1950's and1960's, anyone could buy guns at hardware stores, army surplus stores, gas stations, variety stores, Sears mail order, no waiting, no background check, no fingerprints, no government forms and there were no school shootings.

 

19. The NRA's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda, but the anti-gun lobby's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign is responsible social activity.

 

20. Guns are so complex that special training is necessary to use them properly, and so simple to use that they make murder easy.

 

21. A handgun, with up to 4 controls, is far too complex for the typical adult to learn to use, as opposed to an automobile that only has 20.

 

22. Women are just as intelligent and capable as men but a woman with a gun is "an accident waiting to happen" and gun makers' advertisements aimed at women are "preying on their fears."

 

23. Ordinary people in the presence of guns turn into slaughtering butchers but revert to normal when the weapon is removed.

 

24. Guns cause violence, which is why there are so many mass killings at gun shows.

 

25. A majority of the population supports gun control, just like a majority of the population supported owning slaves.

 

26. Any self-loading small arm can legitimately be considered to be a "weapon of mass destruction" or an "assault weapon."

 

27. Most people can't be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by because they can be trusted.

 

28. The right of Internet pornographers to exist cannot be questioned because it is constitutionally protected by the Bill of Rights, but the use of handguns for self defense is not really protected by the Bill of Rights.

 

29. Free speech entitles one to own newspapers, transmitters, computers, and typewriters, but self-defense only justifies bare hands.

 

30. The ACLU is good because it uncompromisingly defends certain parts of the Constitution, and the NRA is bad, because it defends other parts of the Constitution.

 

31. Charlton Heston, a movie actor as president of the NRA is a cheap lunatic who should be ignored, but Michael Douglas, a movie actor as a representative of Handgun Control, Inc. is an ambassador for peace who is entitled to an audience at the UN arms control summit.

 

32. Police operate with backup within groups, which is why they need larger capacity pistol magazines than do "civilians" who must face criminals alone and therefore need less ammunition.

 

33. We should ban "Saturday Night Specials" and other inexpensive guns because it's not fair that poor people have access to guns too.

 

34. Police officers have some special Jedi-like mastery over hand guns that private citizens can never hope to obtain.

 

35. Private citizens don't need a gun for self-protection because the police are there to protect them even though the Supreme Court says the police are not responsible for their protection.

 

36. Citizens don't need to carry a gun for personal protection but police chiefs, who are desk-bound administrators who work in a building filled with cops, need a gun.

 

37. "Assault weapons" have no purpose other than to kill large numbers of people. The police need assault weapons. You do not.

 

38. When Microsoft pressures its distributors to give Microsoft preferential promotion, that's bad; but when the Federal government pressures cities to buy guns only from Smith & Wesson, that's good.

 

39. Trigger locks do not interfere with the ability to use a gun for defensive purposes, which is why you see police officers with one on their duty weapon.

 

40. Handgun Control, Inc. says they want to "keep guns out of the wrong hands." Guess what? You have the wrong hands.

[PANiC]

41. 8-year-old boy accidentally shoots himself with an Uzi submachine gun at a gun fair

[Yankee~SPARTA~]

I see what you did there....

[EL_n00biachi]

The sarcasm is cool,but ofcourse you should always wish for and work towards a society where being armed is not needed........the history of the US and the ammount of fire arms in the US is such that you simply cannot end private gun ownership from one day to another because obviously the criminals wont do the same thing.

I guess you need to get the criminals to not get their hands on guns anymore b4 you can ever ban fire arms all together....how the hell are you ever gonna do that?....no idea.

 

srry 4 the jibberish english...hope you get what i mean.

Edited January 19, 2011 by EL_n00biachi

[Cylawyer~SPARTA~]

Panic, I have to say, such a tragedy resulting from idiots improperly supervising a child isn't really germane to the sarcasm of this thread!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Squeaky squeaky!

[Steel~Sparta~]

An Armed society is a polite society...

 

Clickty click

[MedicSN6]

Panic, I have to say, such a tragedy resulting from idiots improperly supervising a child isn't really germane to the sarcasm of this thread!

 

Although I'd have to admit I am certainly biased, I agree 100% with CyLawyer on this one. This is plain and simple bad parenting. As a shooter and a Scout Leader (BSA), I think it is important to instill respect and knowledge of safety and operation of firearms in children of certain cognitive ability. Notice I did not say 'age.' It should be taught based on maturity and the ability to make sound decisions. Only a parent would know these things about their child.

That being said, while teaching the various factors of firearm usage/ownership, you have to start small. By small I mean a pump pellet gun, then to an air rifle, then to a .22 LR. You don't start an 8 year old out with a fully automatic sub machine gun when you know darn well he doesn't understand how it works and how its mechanics will translate to his small frame. This is simply and nothing more than stupidity on behalf of the father of the kid.

 

If I were the business owner, I would have limited the age groups to certain types of firearms and certain calibers of rounds. Doing this could have also prevented the accident, but the fact is, that the father gave his son permission when he shouldn't have.

 

Never the less, a tragedy has occurred because human beings made bad decisions and did not take basic safety in to account before letting this kid shoot a weapon he should have never touched. It isn't an inanimate objects fault.

[Athlon64~SPARTA~]

A person once said, life is a whole lot tougher when your stupid.

Letting unsupervised kidds fool around with hardware.

Edited January 20, 2011 by Athlon64~SPARTA~

[Halli~SPARTA~]

We need to Ban Automobiles also as this will Keep Drunk drivers from killing.

[EL_n00biachi]

....im not walking to the liquorstore!!lol

[Hunter~SPARTA~]

 

 

- JHunter

[Haloelite]

pure win jhunter.

[OrcFace_McStompYou]

The sarcasm is cool,but ofcourse you should always wish for and work towards a society where being armed is not needed........the history of the US and the ammount of fire arms in the US is such that you simply cannot end private gun ownership from one day to another because obviously the criminals wont do the same thing.

I guess you need to get the criminals to not get their hands on guns anymore b4 you can ever ban fire arms all together....how the hell are you ever gonna do that?....no idea.

 

That would be wonderful, except for the part where human nature makes it impossible. Get rid of all the guns and how should a 5'8" 120lb. woman defend herself from a 6'5" 250lb rapist? Firearms are the great equalizer. Removing them favors the strong and disavantages everyone else. <RETRACTED>

 

EDIT: Removed UK comparison due to cultural differences.

Edited January 21, 2011 by OrcFace_McStompYou

[Zeno~SPARTA~]

To my knowledge women in the UK have been unarmed since boadicea.

[Cylawyer~SPARTA~]

Dang it! Zeno went and used a word I had to look up!

 

...that doesn't happen too often.

[Durka-Durka~SPARTA~]

Isn't the correct spelling "Boudica" or Boudicca?

[Ralai]

Queen Boudica or Boadicea as she is more commonly called

[Zeno~SPARTA~]

Interesting and apparently correct Durka, but because I am an older fart she was always known as Boadicea and several Navy ships and a shore installation use that spelling.

 

I have stayed out of this discussion, my own views are mixed, especially with regards to the US. But the use of an example in the UK that is so obviously wrong to support your argument warrants a response, if only to set the records straight. In all my life in the UK (and I come from east London) I only knew 2 people with firearms prior to gun control. Extrapolating from this, the effect of gun control on crime is an irrelevance in the UK since few households had weapons for personal defence. The prolific distribution of weapons in the US, its history and geography makes the situation there less apparent.

 

Obviously the feelings of the majority here on this much politicized subject are not mixed.

[custard~SPARTA~]

I'm not sure it's ever been legal to use a firearm for self defense in the UK, if you use a knife from the kitchen you are even expected to justify that. We traditionally have had a very different outlook on what you can do to protect yourself in your own home.

[Zeno~SPARTA~]

Thats a good point Custard.

[MedicSN6]

Thats a good point Custard.

Agreed. The different expectations or lack thereof at the most basic level define everything afterward.

[MedicSN6]

To my knowledge women in the UK have been unarmed since boadicea.

 

That's crazy you mention her. I watched a Discovery channel hour on her and her uprising. She was from the Iceni tribe in Eastern Britain. Tough chick, similar to Joan of Arc in her leadership, but without all the crazy visions Joan had.

[Steel~Sparta~]

"Boudica exhorted her troops from her chariot, her daughters beside her. Tacitus gives her a short speech in which she presents herself not as an aristocrat avenging her lost wealth, but as an ordinary person, avenging her lost freedom, her battered body, and the abused chastity of her daughters. Their cause was just, and the deities were on their side; the one legion that had dared to face them had been destroyed. She, a woman, was resolved to win or die; if the men wanted to live in slavery, that was their choice."

 

Tough woman and a piece of history that I was unaware existed. She was also brutal...

 

"Tacitus says the Britons had no interest in taking or selling prisoners, only in slaughter by gibbet, fire, or cross. Dio's account gives more detail: that the noblest women were impaled on spikes and had their breasts cut off and sewn to their mouths, "to the accompaniment of sacrifices, banquets, and wanton behaviour" in sacred places, particularly the groves of Andraste."

 

Ok back on subject. Here in the US we do have to justify killing in our home in self defence and depending on the location that can be difficult. California would be one example. In other places it is easy(er)... Texas, Tennesse. In many cases it depends on a who is on the grand jury. That said I think that any person has the right to defend themselves and their homes whether it is with firearm, blunt instument, or blade. Notice that I said right and not requirement. Some people chose not to defend themselves and would rather run, hide or both. That too is their right and I wish them the best. I think that what a lot of people forget is that just because I have the right to arm myself does not mean that I HAVE to arm myself.

 

Yes I am armed.

[MedicSN6]

 

Yes I am armed.

 

I have two arms. And at each end, hands.

[Yoshi]

Castle Doctrine is what the law is called. Edited January 21, 2011 by Yoshi