NoScream~SPARTA~ Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 GRIN Officially Closes Down http://www.gametrailers.com/news/grin-offi...loses-down/1250 There are certainly no smiles for the people at GRIN today as the Swedish video game developer has been forced to close its doors after 12 years of developing due to financial difficulties. In a letter posted on their official site, Bo and Ulf Andersson write that ?too many publishers have been delaying their payments, causing an unbearable cash flow situation.? GRIN was the developer of the highly popular Tom Clancy?s Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 1 & 2 for the PC. They are also credited to developing Bionic Commando Rearmed, Wanted: Weapons of Fate, the next-gen Bionic Commando and Terminator Salvation among others. Despite the success of GRAW 1 & 2 along with the success of Bionic Commando Rearmed, the last three games stated above were released to a lukewarm reception by both critics and fans and sales were not very high. Sadly, GRIN joins a growing list of developers who have been shut down due to the current turbulent economic times. We wish the best of luck to all those at GRIN and hope that their talent finds its way to other game developers. Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halli~SPARTA~ Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Owch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 I think we are going to see some significant changes to the PC gaming industry over the next couple of years. To compete with next-gen consoles, PC games will have to take a lot more advantage of user created content like mods, missions, content packs. This has always been a part of most major shooter titles, to some degree, but I think we will start seeing a shift towards more robust editor programs included with games... easier to use, easier to learn, with enough flexibility that advanced scripters can churn out high quality content and neophytes can crank out playable but simple content. ArmA2's editor is a step in that direction, but could sitll be easier to use. Sad to see a big name go down like that due to economic conditions, but GRIN has struggled with less than stellar projects over the last couple of years. Unless you have a fanbase already, your game must be damned good to make any money these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durka-Durka~SPARTA~ Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 GRAW was, at best, playable. GRAW2 was purty but sucked. Alot of people want to put the blame on UBi for killing that potential franchise, but GRIN most definately played their part in it as well. Remember how insanely hard it was to mod that engine compared to OGR? Sad to see people lose their jobs, but I can't say I'm not surprised, and I hope future companies will heed the warning signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlon64~SPARTA~ Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Well the game makers are numb to what the game community wants. They stick us with what they think we want. Not what we want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halli~SPARTA~ Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Yeah but it was GRAW that brought us all together so it was not so bad and ya got tae admit that Viiiper's maps were pretty nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durka-Durka~SPARTA~ Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 If it wasn't for Viiiper putting in the time and effort to make those maps, that game would've been put on a shelf long before it did. How long was it before people actually started modding GRAW2? I'm not sure, but I know it took much much longer than it should've. When you build a game for the PC, espically for multiplayer, you gotta understand the notion of replayability. GRIN just couldn't get the concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Were any of the maps released outside of Sparta? Might have to go hunt some down and have a look... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custard~SPARTA~ Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Were any of the maps released outside of Sparta? Might have to go hunt some down and have a look... They are all MP maps and they were soo much fun, I'm sure someone has them but you would have to host yourself, to set up a dedi is not a 5 min job from what I overheard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krambo Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Yeah but it was GRAW that brought us all together so it was not so bad and ya got tae admit that Viiiper's maps were pretty nice. agreed! Halli is spot on here. Viii's maps where awesome and iv stil got them all just incase!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrester~SPARTA~ Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Grin had to dance to UBI's music thats what was their problem. They wanted to do more, and frequently responded to issues mentionned in forums in a phrase like we would love to do that but we can't. Even though the engine was hard on systems and hard to mod the engine was superb to a lot of other engines.... I don't blame GRIN for the downfall of GRAW and GRAW2 I blame UBI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeno~SPARTA~ Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Were any of the maps released outside of Sparta? Might have to go hunt some down and have a look... A bunch of Viii's GRAW maps can be found here http://www.legionofsparta.net/downloads/Games/GRAW1/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlon64~SPARTA~ Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Well a few of us still play it in co-op, and its still alot of fun, the influx of new co-op maps from GR.net keeps the game new and fun for some of us. We have been doing Advanced warfair mod for joint ops recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeno~SPARTA~ Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Have you tried Hangar 18 for GRAW2 - 700 enemies, kept me and my francophone buddies busy on Wednesday http://www.legionofsparta.net/downloads/Ga...hangar18.bundle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrester~SPARTA~ Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 can't we organise a gr.net night for GRAW instead of our old cod4 nights? I'd like to do some graw agaion, but not alone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicSN6 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Grin had to dance to UBI's music thats what was their problem. They wanted to do more, and frequently responded to issues mentionned in forums in a phrase like we would love to do that but we can't. Even though the engine was hard on systems and hard to mod the engine was superb to a lot of other engines.... I don't blame GRIN for the downfall of GRAW and GRAW2 I blame UBI. Agreed! A sad day indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durka-Durka~SPARTA~ Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Grin had to dance to UBI's music thats what was their problem. They wanted to do more, and frequently responded to issues mentionned in forums in a phrase like we would love to do that but we can't. Even though the engine was hard on systems and hard to mod the engine was superb to a lot of other engines.... I don't blame GRIN for the downfall of GRAW and GRAW2 I blame UBI. Makes me wonder what their other games were like. They all seemed to be the same thing with different packaging to me. I never bought T4 or that Bionic Commando thing because I had a feeling it would turn out like GRAW2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrNo~SPARTA~ Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 If you mute your headset and listen real quiet I think you can hear tap's playing. A moment of silence please for the fallen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis~SPARTA~ Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 Anyone seen Archdevil lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halli~SPARTA~ Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 Not in a while, Anyone seen Elvis lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usthomsen~SPARTA~ Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 Not in a while, Anyone seen Elvis lately? I think he is dead but may be wrong. Maybe he is sitting in some exotic bar with John Denver and Michael Jackson and drinking beer and having a laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usthomsen~SPARTA~ Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 can't we organise a gr.net night for GRAW instead of our old cod4 nights? I'd like to do some graw agaion, but not alone.... I am in. That would be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis~SPARTA~ Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 New job, couple weeks vacation, twins, long commute to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlon64~SPARTA~ Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 I gess that means we won't see GRAW 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Not much point in GRAW3 when GR4 is already in the works. http://www.gamercenteronline.net/2009/04/2...-ghost-recon-4/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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