NoScream~SPARTA~ Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 PC - X360 PS3 A flight sim like no other ? using real time photo realistic topography in 3D Developed by Ubisoft's Bucharest Studio, HAWX lets you pilot more than 50 planes in dogfights across the sky. Set in 2012, HAWX imagines a world that has become increasingly dependant on private military companies (PMCs). With PMCs increasingly gaining power, we sit on the precipice of a global conflict. Sounds like a good enough reason to hop in your fighter jet and shoot down some bogies. into the Danger Zone In game play - demo http://hawxgame.uk.ubi.com/?__utma=1.42991..._utmk=111019781 Features http://hawxgame.uk.ubi.com/features.php ENHANCED REALITY SYSTEM (E.R.S.) E.R.S. is in-game technology that helps turn novice aviators into elite pilots of the future. The Enhanced Reality System is the core of the HAWX flight experience: aircraft interception trajectories, incoming missile detection, anti-crash system, damage assessment, tactical map, and weapons trajectory control. E.R.S. also allows players to issue orders to their squadron and other units, making this system as iconic to HAWX as the Cross-Com system is to Tom Clancy?s Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter®! ASSISTANCE MODE Players can ease into their flight missions and gain a level of comfort with the use of the assistance mode. Once employed, players can take full advantage of their technological support through the E.R.S and gain maximum piloting security. If the situation calls for the player to unleash the full potential of the aircraft, the assistance mode can be switched off and all safety features will be deactivated. This comes with increased risks, but allows the player advanced dogfighting maneuvers and stunning third-person views REVOLUTIONARY MULTIPLAYER For the first time ever in the air-combat genre, players will be able to experience the entire solo campaign with seamless JUMP IN/JUMP OUT functionality. In PVP mode, players can challenge each other in intense dog-fighting sessions and find out who's the top gun. Winning players are rewarded with experience points and money to unlock more weapons. REALISM AND TECHNOLOGY Players have the opportunity to take the throttle of over 50 famous aircrafts, and take them over real world locations & cities in photo-realistic environments created with the best commercial satellite data on the civilian market. Release date confirmed in this video back end. v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlon64~SPARTA~ Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 (edited) WOW Its about time someone finely came out with a NEW fkight simm!!!!!!! Hope its all DX10!!!! Dogface and I will be allover this one! Edited June 23, 2008 by Athlon64~SPARTA~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoScream~SPARTA~ Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share Posted June 23, 2008 It comes in two installs, OLD Foggies DX9 & FULL ON DX10. I'm not much a flight sim geek, liking things like Comanche series was my limit, probably because all airplane sims were crap, except for IL2. But I have to say, WATCHING THE VIDEOS (yes plz watch the videos) you can instantly see this is a Air sim with a difference. That being more active, complex, exciting. Reminding me of my youth with two old favorites, battlezone & missile command the hectic & vector over lay. The 1st person in cockpit is sweet and if they capture the punch that is missing in every flight game then they might have a fun FPS Flight game. This is another game with potential to give a new twist on the general diet of FPS & RACE games. Ingame screen grabs - click to expand Sex in the skies viii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlon64~SPARTA~ Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 YESS INDEED!! See dog face is a real pilot So he knows whats up with that! WOW can't wait!! THanks again Viii! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoScream~SPARTA~ Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share Posted June 23, 2008 What you talkin about willis ? You Dogface & Me to contend with , I use to fly (so did cobol) Comanche series & dog fight games are our only use for Joysticks ! dam NEW JOYSTICK VICAR ! YOU JOYSTICK RECOMMENDATIONS PLEASE Gentlemen ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoScream~SPARTA~ Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share Posted June 23, 2008 On the HAWX forum http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3...46/m/3071096766 Devs answer questions. Is H.A.W.X a simulator or an arcade? H.A.W.X is a good mix between simulation and arcade gameplay. We use a fully realistic physics engine that is tuned in a way that allows every player to be able to enjoy it. The focus is being put on the gameplay depth, not on the gameplay complexity. Even if, at a first glance, our game offers a very accessible piloting experience, we also managed to keep the experience very authentic, with a huge room for skills improvement over the time. In other words, the philosophy behind the game could be summarized this way: H.A.W.X does not aim to simulate reality, but to build on it and provide an experience that feels accurate, while allowing everybody to perform complex, fun and rewarding maneuvers. So everybody will have the same weapons - how you use them is another matter... What are the available view options for the game? I would really like to play from a cockpit perspective. ? You will have a specific realistic cockpit view for each of the more than 50 aircrafts featured in the game. The view options are dependant on what Assistance mode you are in. When using ?assistance ON?, you can access 3rd person camera with 360 degree controls, cockpit view, and 1st person camera. When using ?assistance OFF? you have access to the special dogfight camera. We are currently working on the cockpit view, which explains why we cannot show it to you right now. Other general cameras includes: Weapon camera, replay camera, and cinematic camera. Is there a limited amount of ammo? YES Is the story behind H.A.W.X fictional or there will be real settings? H.A.W.X takes place in the Tom Clancy universe; therefore you will pilot real planes, over real world locations. All planes are strictly based on the real models in collaboration with each manufacturer and all missions? environments have been created using the exact satellite data from the original locations, in order to make the experience as authentic as possible. The story takes place in the near future, between 2014 & 2019, with a scenario based on risks that are already anticipated by national agencies, news sources and military experts. READ More.... http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/3981007546 viii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoScream~SPARTA~ Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share Posted June 23, 2008 Cockpit View ? Here in Paris Ubisoft was demonstrating one particular level from Tom Clancy's HAWX and as the developers readily admit, not one which is currently showing all aspects of the game. One notable absence was cockpit views but we're promised detailed cockpits for the finished game. http://xbox.boomtown.net/en_uk/articles/ar...ew.php?id=16101 viii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlon64~SPARTA~ Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 (edited) Screen shots are amaseing! The con trails off the missles and the vapior vortices are great! Edited June 23, 2008 by Athlon64~SPARTA~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoScream~SPARTA~ Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share Posted June 23, 2008 What you talkin about willis ? You Dogface & Me to contend with , I use to fly (so did cobol) Comanche series & dog fight games are our only use for Joysticks ! dam NEW JOYSTICK VICAR ! YOU JOYSTICK RECOMMENDATIONS PLEASE Gentlemen ? Help me out with Joystick recommendations...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicSN6 Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I run a P.o.S. Saitek from Wal-Mart. So, I wont be too much help to you. I know there are some really nice setups for far less than what you paid for that watch of yours. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoScream~SPARTA~ Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share Posted June 23, 2008 I was looking for a left handed Joystick, Saitek is the only one for now, I was looking for $60-90 max http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/evoforce.htm good for lefties & righties force feedback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durka-Durka~SPARTA~ Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I love and use my Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Cheap and very useful, although you could probably use a PS3 controller for this game, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlon64~SPARTA~ Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I have the same as medic, works good for me. Its the same as you have linked to, but the pro x52 is it from what I hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilducky Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I have an x52 from satiek The only thing the pro has is radio displays on the MFD, I would just go for the normal x52 if I were you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xross Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I went on a joystick search last year and was pretty disappointed in the choices available. I had a MS FF stick from the old days and needed a new one. The short story is I'm currently using a X52 Pro Flight system along with the associated rudder pedals. It has just about everything....except for force feedback. Saitek X52 Pro Link Rudder Pedals Link I also bought a Cyborg Evo FF stick because I was determined to have force feedback. Cyborg Link I tried them both and currently only use the X52 Pro/Rudders as they give the best performance. The immersion factor is much higher, IMHO, with the X52 even though it still p*sses me off that they can't make a top end stick with force feedback. For what it's worth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoScream~SPARTA~ Posted June 24, 2008 Author Share Posted June 24, 2008 I ruled the X52 out for 2 reasons, firstly NO Force Feedback (lame) for the price it should be gold plated and secondly because I'm left handed and the throttle aux stick is right handed only. I did think about buying one and chopping the Throttle stick and rotating but, why should I, no FF sealed it for me, It's out. I want an ambidextrous Force feedback stick, Cobol had an X52 and the throttle part was more gimmick than function, a good stick with twist rudder will do me. Just for the moment the Saitek seems to be the only FF stick available...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adder360~SPARTA~ Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 well i use my chepo stick from pcworld was about £7.50 and is right or left handed (the throttle can detach and can be put on either side) was called the pc line, it works on nothing fancy 1 trigger and 3 bottons on the back. does the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicSN6 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 The Saitek ST290 Pro is the JS that I have http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/st290pro.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai~SPARTA~ Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I use the Saitek Cyborg Evo Forcefeeback http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/evoforce.htm Pretty solid and not too expensive. All the usual Saitek configurability including RH/LH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrester~SPARTA~ Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I don't need to fly a sim were you have like 20 sidewinders on one plane.... ralism my ... (sorry) I tried combat flight sim, was too difficult for me, so a bit more arcade aint a problem, but this isn't my deal, and I will not buy UBI again (exept for a good game by grin, because I still like them for what they tried to archieve) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usthomsen~SPARTA~ Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 To me the game looks too arcadish so i may be sitting this one over untill someone from the group has bought it and tested it and i agree with u Forrester. It´s just to fast paced to be real. U don´t launch sidewinders left and right in the real world. I Use the Microsoft Sidewinder2 joystick. Its good quality and the base is really heavy to make it more stable. Dunno if u can get it anymore though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoScream~SPARTA~ Posted June 24, 2008 Author Share Posted June 24, 2008 Not to be too negative but it is an Arcade game NOT SIMULATION. If you want sims, this is not for you, just like GRID in no RACE CAR SIM. This is about HAWX which Ubi said is a crossover game Arcade/sim.... We will let you know how it is, in due course .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathrus~SPARTA~ Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I bought a Saitek X-45 for about $40.00 on E-bay, it was barely used and still in the original packaging. It looks almost the same as the X-52 without the LCD screen. It can be setup for about any aircraft & has adjustments for just about everything including trim settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoScream~SPARTA~ Posted June 27, 2008 Author Share Posted June 27, 2008 Actual ingame screen shots 22 June 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xross Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 I ruled the X52 out for 2 reasons, firstly NO Force Feedback (lame) for the price it should be gold plated and secondly because I'm left handed and the throttle aux stick is right handed only. I did think about buying one and chopping the Throttle stick and rotating but, why should I, no FF sealed it for me, It's out. I want an ambidextrous Force feedback stick, Cobol had an X52 and the throttle part was more gimmick than function, a good stick with twist rudder will do me. Just for the moment the Saitek seems to be the only FF stick available...... You asked for joystick input and that's all I was trying to provide. I know the choices suck. To me there's no excuse for the X-52 to come without force feedback....but it does. If you're not 'flying' a lot then a Saitek Cyborg may satisfy your needs. I would suggest trying one before purchasing if at all possible. The X-52 throttle section is actually very handy and really shines when trying to finesse a helo in somewhere. Add foot control with rudder/tail rotor pedals and, again IMHO, the fact that FF is not present becomes less annoying. But then again I think MS Flight Sim is still the gold standard of true flight simulators so maybe we're talking apples and oranges. I know of no other flight sim that allows for accurate real world/near real time weather conditions and a world full of VOR/ADF transmitters to fascilitate cross country and trans-global navigation along with all the other hyper-reallistic features. To an old school sim pilot, GPS and auto-pilot is simply arcade flying. Best of luck on the search for the best joystick for your needs. X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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