Stang~SPARTA~

OK Guys I'm not going to post the whole Aviation Standards Guide I'm working on here but I thought I'd put up a small taste of the introduction. Please let me know what you think and please remember this is a DRAFT that need s lot of editing. So expect typo's and punctuation errors. Thanks Sparta ACE Pilot Certification Program Air Combat Environment (ACE) Aviation Standards Guide Introduction: Thank you for your interest in this guide and the Sparta ACE Pilot Certification Program. This guide is a work in progress and will be changed, upgraded and made better over time and as our needs dictate. This guide is not meant to be any one of the following: An End-ALL, Do-ALL, Know-ALL Guide, it will grow and get better over time. A Military Doctrine, Field Manual or Standard Operating Procedures for Military Operations. A realistic Military based Tactical Guide (please join the Military if you want that level of realism). It is meant to be a training and reference guide, based on the strategy and needs of Sparta Battlefield Commanders (and Admins) of how they want to employ the Air Asset piece of the simulation on Sparta Servers. The main focus of Sparta based servers is Land Based Domination i.e.: Attack and Defend missions with Aviation playing a limited but critical role...that of support. This guide will build on those needs and support the Land Based Operations, as directed by Sparta Battlefield Commanders (BFC). In addition, all written, oral and flight testing will based on the information in this guide. As a Pilot with the privilege of flying aircraft on Sparta's Servers, it is expected that you will know your aircraft, its capabilities and how to employ them, based on Sparta Standard Operating Procedures (SSOP's). This will ensure that the Pilot Class, will be limited to the professionals and the competent to carry out the missions assigned by the BFC's...thus becoming an Air Asset as opposed to an Air Annoyance. Supporting the ground troops and meeting mission objectives is where it's at here. If you're up to the challenge, please read on and get ready to do your best, because we only want the best Pilots, piloting our aircraft and supporting our ground operations. If you're looking to improve your aviation skills and work towards becoming a Certified Pilot, Sparta does have a single server that is designed just for the Aviation community and allows all users to Pilot any aircraft and employ their weapons systems to their hearts delight. The server is the Sparta Air Domination Server and is open to all users. There are other ARMA Aviation Guides on the web that contain valuable information and offer different strategies and tactics. We encourage you to read these as well, as knowledge is power and you will benefit from it during game play. One source of information is Shack Tactical found HERE, where a gentleman who goes by "Dslyecxi" (former US Marine), has put together what is considered to be the most all inclusive guide covering virtually every aspect of ARMA2 as a tactile strategy land based guide. You can find it HERE Interesting enough, the Shack Tactical, Tatics, Techniques & Procedures Guide( TTP2) is so good, that Marek ?paněl, CEO of Bohemia Interactive (creators of ARMA and ARMA2) recommends it himself...see below "Dslyecxi's guide is an unbelievably complex, detailed and informative resource, showing many ways how to be more efficient in combat in ARMA II and hopefully also get more enjoyment from the game. The previous guide was already unique, and it is breathtaking to see it this much improved right on time for the international release of ARMA II. This guide is simply one of a kind and I strongly recommend it to everyone who will be sent to Chernarus!" Marek ?paněl, CEO of Bohemia Interactive Sparta Aviation Standards Guide The role of Air Vehicles on the simulated battlefield: The first thing to understand is that ALL aircraft in the simulation are there for a supporting role. ARMA2 is not a dedicated flight simulator but does include an Aviation element. This class (Pilot Class) is designed primarily to offer supporting missions to "Land Based Combat Units" (LBCU's) and Battlefield Commanders (BFC). This is based on their needs NOT yours, so they can achieve their mission goals efficiently and quickly and with limited or no loss of life. As such, this predicates that Aviation in ARMA2 be used tactically and strategically, as designed into the overall mission objectives. This requires a different mindset for the Pilot Class, as we are in a supporting role being used by the troops on the ground and the commanders, as a tool to overcome certain obstacles. By doing the boring things well and following orders, Battlefield Commanders (BFC) will gain confidence in our abilities to meet their needs and will use us for the "Harder - Cooler" things, like enemy air defense suppression, combat air support and heavy armor destruction. We have to do everything well and that's what this program is about. Let's get started. Aircraft will be used for the following items: Troop Transport, Equipment and Wreck Transport Supply and RE-Supply Medevac Forward Air Controllers (FAC) Reconnaissance (Recon) Fire Suppression / Close Air Support (F/S - CAS) Suppression of Enemy air defenses (SEAD) Destruction of Enemy Air Defenses (DEAD) Combat Air Patrol (CAP) Aircraft will NOT be used for ANY of the following: Sightseeing Aerobatics Shows Hot Dogging - Shining Your Ass (SYA, pronounced See-Ya as your getting booted and banned) Flight or Weapons Practice (This is what the Air Domination Server is for) Personal Transport Air Rambo Operations (I'm sure you can figure this one out, see SYA) Fun and Games (This is what the Air Domination Server is for) Pissing Hali off anymore than he already is, for taking HIS aircraft to who knows where & for who knows what (Trust me, you'll get kicked and banned Pronto, without remorse) This goes the same for all the Admins and Battlefield Commanders, they do not put up with un professional behavior in aircraft or on the ground. What is expected of from the Certified Pilot Class: Rules for Pilots Rule 1: Wine, wine and wine some more as everyone know that Pilots are a bunch of egotistical nut case insane beer-a-holic babies with a true death wish. What's the difference between a Jet Engine and a Pilot...when the jet engine quits, it STOPS WINING. Don't forget to always be late, screw things up, blame them on everyone else and most importantly...take all the credit for things you had nothing to do with. Finally, be sure to remember that you're God's gift to humanity and that the population in general and all woman as a whole, could not exist without you. Also, drink like a fish, curse like a sailor and !@#$ like a porn star...because you are. Lastly, piss on the seat, blame it on a leak and don't worry that it's the same excuse, you used last week. Make sure to watch these videos over and over until you know EVERY WORD BY HEART as you WILL BE TESTED ON THIS and asked to sing it in front of the other Pilots ...kidding...no really I'm serious. This one too no biggie so don't worry about it...but every word is on the test...trust me All fun aside, Pilots fill one of the most critical roles in military and civilian lives today. Desert Strom showed just how effective a properly run air campaign can be, by "softening up" the ground targets prior to the ground war and in support thereafter. Without a doubt, military Pilots put themselves in harm's way everyday, so that others may live...and to kill the bad guys and break their shit. They do this with a level of professionalism and pride that transcends from the early beginnings when WW1 Pilots leveled revolvers at each in circle fights and fought the first days of the first air wars in history. Military Pilots have never been the single solution to all conflicts but they have been the deciding factor many times. In ARMA2 our aim is not to win the war ourselves but to support the Ground Troops and win the war together, by being the best of the best. OK, the real Rules for the Pilot Class Rule 1 Act Professional - A Pilot is responsible for his crew, his cargo, his team members and his aircraft (not necessarily in that order). You are here to help win the fight...not win it alone. You are part of team that when used correctly becomes a huge asset and when not, you become a Huge ASS. You may not have been a military pilot or a general aviation pilot for that matter but at the end of the day, we're all in this together and Pilots do play a critical role in achieving overall mission success. Simply put, follow orders unless it puts your aircrew, aircraft, guys on the ground or cargo in danger. If it does, then let your Battlefield Commander (BFC) know why you're deviating from plan and what your new plan is, to achieve his goals. Make no mistake, this is not about who can fly the fastest at 5 feet while dodging trees, hills and power lines to show he's a shit hot pilot. This is about carrying out mission orders and getting aircraft responsibilities completed, in a safe and efficient manner by Sparta Procedures...not Maverick's from Top Gun! Rule 2 Communicate Effectively - There is nothing worse than a Pilot who fails to communicate properly with his superiors, fellow Pilots, Crew, Team Members, and his area of responsibility (AOA), "anyone in his aircraft". Everything from simply acknowledging orders to letting the troops in the back know, exactly what to expect in the LZ. More than once we've all been picked up by a Pilot expecting to be transported to the next AO and all of sudden the guy veers off course and goes somewhere else...without telling anyone what's going on. To make matters worse, this is typically the Pilot who's NOT on Team Speak and does not communication with anyone through other means like in-game text. More on effective communications later however, this is extremely critical. Rule 3 ALL Pilots MUST be on Team Speak - Period, no exceptions whatsoever...don't even think about it. We need the ability to talk in real time with Pilots as part of the overall mission parameters. If you have a flaky headset, buy a new one, a flacky connection, reconnect, a weak voice, talk louder, a shy voice, get over it, a loud voice, turn your mic level down. We need Clear, Concise Consistent Communication, ALL the time. If you can't communicate effectively during both pressure and non pressure situations, we don't need you as a Pilot. You will be tested on this more than once. Pilots who can't communicate effectively are like tits on a bull...worthless. You may be Lt. Pete "Maverick" Mitchell in the cockpit with flying but if you have trouble communicating, you'll never make it. Trust me, Hali like to boot guys that don't talk in squads, never mind in aircraft...that really pisses him off. (note to self...don't piss off the Admins or BFC) Rule 4 Follow Procedures - This course is about teaching and certifying you in what we want out of our Pilot Class. Learn the procedures, tactics, techniques and skills and use them effectively. This will make you valued asset to the whole team and you'll earn the right to be known as a Sparta ACE Pilot. We expect a lot and we expect the best. Study the guide, practice the skills, ask for help and when you're ready, pass the test and get your wings. Rule 5 When all else fails or is not covered, refer to the rules above or ASK a Admin, Battlefield Commander or fellow Certified ACE Pilot for help AND remember this, ejecting does not constitute grounds for properly completing your mission. The Role of Vehicles on the Battlefield The first thing one must remember when taking a vehicle role is bla bla bla... and the rest of the guide

PM's sent to those who offered to help with the screenshots Drew, please send me a PM with your email in it and I'll get you the list of the needed screen shots. For some reason I can't send you a PM...might be because you're too new here. Thanks Guys

I know...that's why I said they're BAD ASS I meant it seriously!...they are! You thought I was making up all that stuff??...its ALL true

yea but.... ....can you do that while killing 500 terrorist with a single bullet and stick of bubble gum, in the dead of winter on an icecap in a snow blizzard, as you're patching up your wounded buddy, who's guts just got shot out as your wife is calling with a bounced check emergency..

I have several friend that are in the Virtual Thunderbird's demonstration team, see the link below CLICK HERE They are awesome and use LOMAC as a basis for their performances however, the aircraft model is a F-16 on the outside and a F-15 on the inside, because the F-16 was never created to be flyable. I was hoping Flaming Cliffs 2 would solve this. Oh well....wait, wiat, wait some more

Navy Seals are just BAD ASS ....ALL day long

WoooHoo I love Birthdays Congrats!!

KAl, I just wanted to keep it private until its finished and then I agree, we make it available for anyone who wants to study the information and take the certification test. If you saw what I have today, you'd say "Stang, thats a lot of mess...clean it up". Once its finished, I want it to be something that's worthy of having the Sparta name on it and shows how we do things around here. Its not a problem to keep it on my system and share it with only the guys helping to put it together...whatever you think. I like the server based password solution as it keeps us from tracking lost or given out passwords....Great Idea!! Any guesstimate time frame of when you think this solution may be ready to implement? Thanks

Small world Guys My in-laws live in Lakeland Florida and I'll be coming down for Top Gun and Florida Jets right after the new year. Maybe we can all get together and have a beer?

Guys, This is a great idea and may be the "holy grail" to getting started fixing the "bad pilot" issue we've had in the past. When can we test this out and see what's possible? I've gotten together the basic notes and information for the Sparta Aviation Guide. Is there a "secure" place I can upload it as a working draft, so we don't "give away the farm" before the programs ready & approved to roll out? Secondly, I wanted to point out that there is a AWESOME ARMA2 Guide available for free via Dslyecxi's website "Shac Tac". The guide is called the ARMA2 Tactics, Techniques and Procedures Guide (TTP2) and its available at the link below: CLICK HERE While the entire guide is a great read and its FREE...it has a wonderful section on Vehicle Usage which contains specific Aircraft information. This section is available below: CLICK HERE I have asked Dslyecxi if I can use some certain areas of the information in his TTP2 Guide as a basis for some of our "filler" in the Spartan Aviation Guide. I should have an answer back today or tomorrow. If he allows this, then we can use it as a basis for general Aviation related information. To this I will start adding our specific information on OUR procedures, tactics, techniques and so on, that we want our Pilot class to use. This will form the basis of the information used for the training and testing phases to prepare the pilot candidate for the flight test. Take a look at it (TTP2) and let me know your thoughts on the information it contains. It "appears" to be very accurate however I know we'll have a lot to add to it. BTW...what's the chance I can get someone to help out putting the guide together by taking some specific screen shots. I don't want random things. These will need to be specific shots of specific events that will go along with the information in the guide? We'll also need someone with excellent grammar skills to proof read and edit as needed...as I am not an English Major and basically write like old people F!@# ....messy and slow Any volunteers? Thanks for all the ideas and thoughts Guys....keep it coming!

Thanks for the heads up....We'll keep an eye out for em. Is it OK if we shoot them in the back and tell them it was from you? kidding... Tell them to jump on in and we'll help get them up to speed.

Hi Yankee, Welcome! Were working on a Pilot Class that will address your questions. Look at my post, right above yours...and click on the word HERE. It will take you to the thread we started just for that.

Absolutely, HAli - The "Sparta Aviation Standards Guide" would spell out exactly what is expected of Pilots and how they will handle their communications and their assigned aircraft. These will not be their personal preference but what Sparta determines the Pilot Class will do, to be certified. I agree 100% with each of your items and these will be spelled out clearly in the Standards Guide and part of the verbal and demonstrative testing for certification. Just because you can answer the question correctly on paper, does not mean you'll be able to communicate properly when the shooting starts and pressure hits. We need Pilots that can do both: know the proper procedures and implement them in a meaningful manner. This will add tremendously to the immersive factor and reduce the Admin /Battlefield Commanders work load greatly. A win win for everyone. Custard - The idea, if the MOD-Gods can make it work, is to have a separate "unique" password for each Certified Pilot. This way,...say I'm a good pilot in choppers but can not pass the fixed wing stuff. Then my password would only work for "Choppers" and not for "Fixed wing"...make sense? This also gives the Admins a simple way to kick a non-participating Pilot by simply deleting his password. This was is someone goes "rouge" and gives out his password, we delete it, ban him and problem solved...no more 12 year olds running off with the UH60's & trying to loop it over the active AO before crashing it into a group of good guys in the LZ. This would also give the Pilot Class a lot to accomplish and something to be proud of (being certified in each aircraft class: Fixed Wing, Rotor Wing, Tilt Wing & Large Transport). This would give the Battlefield Commanders a better understanding of what their Air Assets are, just by seeing their name (or however we decide to differentiate them). This brings up another good point. How do we differentiate the Pilots and their certifications from the Troops, so Battlefield Commanders can easily know who they are and their capabilities? We could use a simple Naming Convention like: Pilot~Stang~FRTL (shows Pilot Class, Pilot Name, Fixed Wing, Rotor Wing, Tilt Wing and Large Transport certification via: F= Fixed Wing R=Rotor Wing T=Tilt Wing L=Large Transport Another Option could be through a Ranking System. Maybe ALL Pilots are Captains to separate them from others, with their Certification Level example: CPT~Stang~FRTL If Pilots were all the same rank, reserved for the Pilot Class, then it would be very easy for Battlefield Commanders to know who their Pilots are and what they are certified to fly. Just a couple of quick ideas for you guys to ponder over. Let me know your thoughts.

Another good Sim Just wish the F-16 was on the flyable aircraft list Great news though none the less

Thanks Guys The Pilot Class Discussion thread is HERE

Are you a Pilot?.... How about a good Pilot?...one that can take off and land...safely? Are you a Sparta Certified ACE Pilot? no....well then, read on Sparta - Air Combat Environment (working name) Pilot Certification Program Program Outline: Create a program designed to certify competent Pilots who will thus take on Pilot tasking, in accordance with direction from Commanding Officers (Admins & Battlefield Leaders). The program will be designed with the following things in mind: (subject to change) Goals: Reduce Admin workload from dealing with Pilots and or the lack there of. Create a competent group of "Certified Pilots" that are ready and able to meet the needs of the Battlefield Commanders. Lock out the "non-certified" users from Piloting or Co-piloting aircraft, thus reducing Admin workload. Provide training and pilot proficiencies, that equate Airpower into becoming an Asset for Battlefield Commanders, as they work to achieve mission goals, as opposed to being an aviation annoyance. Further the immersive aspects of the simulation, by providing a positive Aircraft inclusive experience for all. Specifics: Continue the investigation with MOD programmers to fully determine what is and is not possible, to achieve the goals above. Create a Sparta Aviation Standards guide that will contain training information for the Pilot Candidates on Aircraft Specifics, Usage, Employment. Communications, Weapons, Procedures, Standards of Operations, Offensive and Defensive Tactics, Transport, Resupply, Medivac, Support, FAC and other areas of operations as deemed necessary, to support the overall mission goals of the Battlefield Commanders. Create written, oral and demonstrative testing, that will be used as the basis for the Pilot certification program. Thoughts: This will be a work in progress and will continue to change, evolve and grow as Sparta Brass, Admins, Battlefield Commanders and Pilots shape the program into something that is worthy of the Sparta name. At this point, we are open to ideas and suggestions as we create the basis for a presentation, for Sparta Brass to approve or deny. I would simply ask that you please keep this thread on topic, so that we can easily access the information and create a successful program. If you like the Pilot Class and want to participate in this program as a pilot, please understand that not everyone will get in. (IF) this program goes forward, it's designed to reduce the workload on Admins and Battlefield Commanders, by having competent Pilot at their disposal. This means that while everyone may want to be a Pilot, not all will have the skills needed to pass the certification process; and thus, not be allowed to pilot any aircraft. The Air Domination Server is designed to allow "ANYONE" the opportunity to fly till your heart's content and can be used as a training ground to increase your skills, until you can pass "all" the test. This program is designed to provide the" best of the best" Pilot Class and thus by nature, will be difficult to pass. This will insure that "Certified Pilots" will have the skills needed to become a strong asset and help improve the overall enjoyment and immersive factor of ARMA2, for everyone. OK Gentleman....the BAR's Open for business, step right up.

My personal FAVORITE Chuck Norris Fact: Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked someone so hard that his foot broke the speed of light, went back in time, and killed Amelia Earhart while she was flying over the Pacific Ocean.

Zeno... Are you OK with this and me sending it your way for perusal? If so I'll start a separate thread.

Great Vid... here's the FACTS....Chuck Norris Facts that is! THE TOP TEN CHUCK NORRIS FACTS: Chuck Norris' tears cure cancer. Too bad he has never cried. Chuck Norris counted to infinity - twice. Chuck Norris does not hunt because the word hunting infers the probability of failure. Chuck Norris goes killing. If you can see Chuck Norris, he can see you. If you can't see Chuck Norris you may be only seconds away from death. Chuck Norris sold his soul to the devil for his rugged good looks and unparalleled martial arts ability. Shortly after the transaction was finalized, Chuck roundhouse kicked the devil in the face and took his soul back. The devil, who appreciates irony, couldn't stay mad and admitted he should have seen it coming. They now play poker every second Wednesday of the month. When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night he checks his closet for Chuck Norris. Chuck Norris built a time machine and went back in time to stop the JFK assassination. As Oswald shot, Chuck Norris met all three bullets with his beard, deflecting them. JFK's head exploded out of sheer amazement. Chuck Norris has already been to Mars; that's why there are no signs of life there. They once made a Chuck Norris toilet paper, but it wouldn't take shit from anybody. A blind man once stepped on Chuck Norris' shoe. Chuck replied, "Don't you know who I am? I'm Chuck Norris!" The mere mention of his name cured this man blindness. Sadly the first, last, and only thing this man ever saw, was a fatal roundhouse delivered by Chuck Norris. Top 100 facts Chuck Norris is 1/8th Cherokee. This has nothing to do with ancestry, the man ate a fucking Indian. There is no chin behind Chuck Norris' beard. There is only another fist. In fine print on the last page of the Guinness Book of World Records it notes that all world records are held by Chuck Norris, and those listed in the book are simply the closest anyone else has ever gotten. 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Jesus wore it proudly to his dying day. The other Wisemen, jealous of Jesus? obvious gift favoritism, used their combined influence to have Chuck omitted from the Bible. Shortly after all three died of roundhouse kick related deaths. Chuck Norris used live ammunition during all shoot-outs. When a director once said he couldn?t, he replied, ?Of course I can, I?m Chuck Norris,? and roundhouse kicked him in the face. If paper beats rock, rock beats scissors, and scissors beats paper, what beats all 3 at the same time? Answer: Chuck Norris. When his martial arts prowess fails to resolve a situation, Chuck Norris plays dead. When playing dead doesn?t work, he plays zombie. Although it is not common knowledge, there are actually three sides to the Force: the light side, the dark side, and Chuck Norris. Scientists used to believe that diamond was the world?s hardest substance. But then they met Chuck Norris, who gave them a roundhouse kick to the face so hard, and with so much heat and pressure, that the scientists turned into artificial Chuck Norris. God offered Chuck Norris the gift to fly, which he swiftly declined for super strength roundhouse ability. When Chuck Norris was denied a Bacon McMuffin at McDonalds because it was 10:35, he roundhouse kicked the store so hard it became a KFC. Chuck Norris drinks napalm to quell his heartburn. A duck?s quack does not echo. Chuck Norris is solely responsible for this phenomenon. When asked why he will simply stare at you, grimly. Chuck Norris once tried to defeat Garry Kasparov in a game of chess. When Norris lost, he won in life by roundhouse kicking Kasparov in the side of the face. Chuck Norris? roundhouse kick is so powerful, it can be seen from outer space by the naked eye. Chuck Norris doesn?t believe in Germany. If you want a list of Chuck Norris? enemies, just check the extinct species list. 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Before science was invented it was once believed that autumn occurred when Chuck Norris roundhouse kicked every tree in existence. In the original pilot for Star Trek Next Generation, Chuck Norris can be seen powering the USS Enterprise warp drive with his roundhouse kicks. Chuck Norris isn?t lactose intolerant. He just doesn?t put up with lactose?s shit. Chuck Norris doesn?t eat. Rather he kicks ass until he?s full. Scientists in Washington have recently conceded that, if there were a nuclear war, all that would remain are cockroaches and Chuck Norris. Chuck Norris once threated to sue Burger King because they refused to make it his way. When asked what ?his way? detailed, he replied: ?with barbed wire and nails, of course?. He then roundhouse kicked the reporter for even asking. Chuck Norris never ?gets laid?, rather: ?laid gets Chuck?. Playgirl magazine once asked Chuck Norris to appear naked in an issue, Chuck laughed at the opporunity saying ?there isn?t enough paper in the world to contain my bearded member?. He then killed the editors simply by unzipping his pants. Helen Keller?s favorite color is Chuck Norris Chuck Norris once walked down the street with a massive erection. There we no survivors. When Chuck Norris?s wife burned the turkey one Thanksgiving, Chuck said, ?Don?t worry about it honey,? and went into his backyard. He came back five minutes later with a live turkey, ate it whole, and when he threw it up a few seconds later it was fully cooked and came with cranberry sauce. When his wife asked him how he had done it, he gave her a roundhouse kick to the face and said, ?Never question Chuck Norris.? Chuck Norris doesnt have AIDS but he gives it to people anyway. When you open a can of whoop-ass, Chuck Norris jumps out. On June 7th 1994, Chuck Norris entered the same restaurant supermodel Cindy Crawford was eating at. Instinctively, Cindy swept everything off the table, threw herself on it in a fit of lust, and begged Chuck to ravish her. After Chuck finished his beer, he obliged her. When Chuck's magnificent lead sperm cannoned into Cindy's womb it went straight to one of her ovaries and roared, "Which one of you servile wenches thinks you can handle getting split open by the Chuck!?" All of the eggs cowered in the corner. The same thing happened at the other ovary. "I didn't fucking think so!" shouted the lead sperm which then lead the rest of the troops back into Chuck's balls. Chuck pulled out; roundhouse kicked Cindy in the face and told her, "Don't ever waste my time again." Chuck Norris can piss into gale force winds. There are no disabled people. Only people who have met Chuck Norris. Chuck Norris won 'Jumanji' without ever saying the word. He simply beat the living shit out of everything that was thrown at him, and the game forfeited. Chuck Norris once bet NASA he could survive re-entry without a spacesuit. On July 19th, 1999, a naked Chuck Norris re-entered the earth's atmosphere, streaking over 14 states and reaching a temperature of 3000 degrees. An embarrassed NASA publicly claimed it was a meteor, and still owes him a beer. Chuck Norris got a perfect score on his SAT's, simply by writing Chuck Norris for every answer. Aliens do exist. They're just waiting for Chuck Norris to die before they attack. Chuck Norris once ate three 72 oz. steaks in one hour. He spent the first 45 minutes having sex with his waitress. After much debate, President Truman decided to drop the atomic bomb on Hiroshima rather than the alternative of sending Chuck Norris. It was more "humane". Chuck Norris doesn't see dead people. He makes people dead. Chuck Norris once went to a frat party, and proceeded to roundhouse every popped collar in sight. He then trank three kegs and shat on their floor, just because he's Chuck Norris. Chuck Norris found out about Conan O'Brien's lever that shows clips from "Walker: Texas Ranger" and is working on a way to make it show clips of Norris having sex with Conan's wife. Chuck Norris doesn't have normal white blood cells like you and I. His have a small black ring around them. This signifies that they are black belts in every form of martial arts and they roundhouse kick the shit out of viruses. That's why Chuck Norris never gets ill. Chuck Norris's girlfriend once asked him how much wood a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood. He then shouted, "HOW DARE YOU RHYME IN THE PRESENCE OF CHUCK NORRIS!" and ripped out her throat. Holding his girlfriend's bloody throat in his hand he bellowed, "Don't fuck with Chuck!" Two years and five months later he realized the irony of this statement and laughed so hard that anyone within a hundred mile radius of the blast went deaf.

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OK I'll start putting together a "Spartan Aviation Standards" guide that will include a simple certification program consisting of a academic testing phase, a flying demonstration phase and a radio demonstration phase. Once its done, (couple of days), I'll make it available for the "powers to be" to review and determine if something like this is useful or not. I think it will go along way in continuing to show the professionalism of how Sparta runs it's servers and encourages a fun and professional environment, for our use online. If we can get air power working as a asset instead of an annoyance, then us "propeller heads" can compliment the missions "instead of (sometimes) ruining them and in doing so, making more work for the Admins. Question... Who on the Sparta side should I get the draft "test-guide" to? If its something that gets implemented, then I think it should be kept away from the main community, to keep from "nullifying" the actual testing and certification process. I'm open to thoughts and suggestions here....just let me know

Very COOL Guys Can't wait until its out! Hurry the heck up

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Welcome to the group!! We have a blast here playing as a team and working together. I think if you invest in the game (ARMA2) you will be very happy you did. Even it's single player is pretty darn good but it's multi-player is great. The servers here are run professionally and the admins make sure everything goes smooth. 12 year olds on a frag-fest or other stupidity like team killing are quickly kicked and teamwork is kept in check. I think you will be be pleasantly surprised at the group and individuals you'll encounter here...they are all a bunch of top rated fellas and not only are they easy to get along with, they are very helpful in getting you up to speed. Welcome and give us a shout when you get online.

Dam glad my B-day is in Jan...right after Christmas then