Forrester~SPARTA~

I dont say my car is the best. But if you take into account all energy used producing energy, refining, loss on the grid, diesel will come out at least as a runner up. Refining for petrol brings huge environmental issues, lots of oil/waste just burns away. Electrical power has considerable loss on the grid, and fracking to get natural gas, I will talk to you in 30 years.... There is only one way to get real clean power earth heat to hydrogen gas. even PV cells cause a lot of toxic waste in the production process. So the goal is clear, and as soon as I can switch to a "good" car I will. In the mean time, reduction of weight, smaller engines (less HP) less driving for fun, and less consumption in homes (especially pools and airco.....) which you wont find over here. And no flying for me and my family, we have fine holidays in europe at at most a day drive away. This year i further improved my home by isolating the floor and switching to floor heating. every overhaul brings isolation/energy efficience gains in my home. I try to do my best.

On the grid 65% of the energy is lost.....and still most power plants use coal..... Natural Gas cars have too limited range (I'd be refuelling every day) (300 km max) 6000 pound cars is not needed at all, my car weighs in at 1400 kilo's (thats 3000 pounds and its a comfortable 5 seater with a big trunk) So to save the environment saving weight in cars is most important, thats only feisable when all cars go down in weight (otherwise accidents will cause deaths in the US) less horsepower is no problem for me, I have driven bigger cars with less horsepowers and still got from A to B. (When I drive too fast it only saves me 5-10 minutes in a drive of 1,5 hours) More and better trains could save a lot on emissions. Id like for Europe to see a tax on flights that are less than 3 hours duration. the emissions in those flights are huge compared to the time gain. my 5 cents... ;-)

I drive one of these diesels, Seat not VW. I think they will survive because all brands have the same emission figures, and you cant beat VW's diesels, they are the best (even though they pollute more than promised) When I bought my car I was counting on a diesel price of €1,45 per litre, it still is 1,16 per litre, and I'm doing 18 km per litre (translate that to gallons per mile and you'll see thats still a lot better than the average car in the US....) Electric cars pollute even more the batteries, the power loss on the grid before their battery, ...... Hydrogen will be the only clean fuel, and if we make unused power created by our windmills into hydrogen a lot of the hazardous hydrogen transport can be evaded....

Happy Birthday P, long time no see, you busy?

Happy Birthday Lads

I feel young again...8 lol

whenever u want, just dont tell us w8ing for my mail 2

Yep me too, maybe Rocky can enlighten us, I googled for vids, but couldn't find much

I'm sure hydrogen cells will be there someday, If we use the energy of windmills not consumed to make hydrogen, we don't have to transport it that much, which makes it safer to use.

I miss the electric hookup on top of the car.... batteries are not environmental friendly....

Titanic....

OI Matey, keep up the good spirt, and celebrate after a while..... when you are up for a party again....

Lol

Congrats Zath !

Shall we organise some GRAW/GRAW2 nights? I cant wait to play something serious again...... Summer's coming my school is out, and luckily for me I don't have 60 hours of work every week for the coming time.

Happy belated youngster

Happy belated Elvis

some belgian chicks for you Happy B'day

Happy Birthday Samurai!!!

As long as there is no 3d pron.....

Happy belated Rizz I trust you let Panic do the BBQ in for you?

Happy Birthday you Aussie